1. Would you say that the themes of your poetry are political?
Yes, in general my poetry has political origins, which developed after I went to university in the 1990s to study Politics and African studies. The conservative, pro-colonial and Eurocentric ethos of much of the teaching made me write protest into my assignments. After the degree was over, I continued my protest in the form of poetry. In this way it was more personal, with themes of society, identity, Diaspora, and being a woman. Racism is an obvious target in my poetry though people don’t know where to place me, being foreign (audibly) but white (in appearance), and it is not always easy to speak from a place that triggers confusion. But I have no other choice. In fact, this is why I am so passionate about poetry; at least it gives me a voice.
2. Does researching and presenting papers help with writing poetry?
2. Does researching and presenting papers help with writing poetry?
Not really, it is truer the other way round: writing poetry helps me write papers, because I started writing poetry first! At the same time the two media do influence and facilitate each other. The themes are the same but writing poetry comes more easily to me because it is universal. Writing academically is, in the end, something artificial, even though the themes I deal with are real and important. Poetry, however, is a medium that is not artificial in the sense that in any country or culture of the world, there is an ancient tradition of poetry because it is so adaptable; it can be a story, it can be a song, it can be written or oral, it is literature or historiography or both, it has an educational content but it is also entertaining and artistic.
3. I understand that you are also interested in photography, painting and singing. Which art form dominates, or do you find they all balance each other out?
3. I understand that you are also interested in photography, painting and singing. Which art form dominates, or do you find they all balance each other out?
The first two art forms I really engaged in was painting and singing. Later came photography and later still poetry. I wish I could do more of all of them. I think creativity is important because it has the double attributes of being spiritual and political; it’s all about life and meaning instead of economics or exploitation. So any form of creativity points into the direction of how a society could look like, it gives us an indication that this is what we could be engaging in rather than in the ‘system’.
4. If money was no object, what would you do differently in your life?
4. If money was no object, what would you do differently in your life?
I would help with the redistribution of money because this is my aim anyway. I want equality and I would take any opportunity that comes along to implement it. If I didn’t need to worry about making money I could concentrate on more writing, work on exhibitions, performances and be pro-active with initiatives that promote harmony and justice.
5. Do you think that your writing on political issues does make a difference?
5. Do you think that your writing on political issues does make a difference?
I hope that my contribution does make a difference somehow. I have heard so many good poets over the years, who write and perform political poetry, very important radical, harmonious, beautiful, challenging, feminist, afrocentric poetry. However, in order to be heard and have an impact I think that writing on its own is not enough. I also need to get active in other ways, e.g. form initiatives, because writing is not a collective thing and activism has to be collective.
6. What is your creative process when writing poetry?
6. What is your creative process when writing poetry?
Much of it is sheer inspiration; I mean it just comes to me. I can write a lot after a great event or after reading a book. I can also put myself into a creative mood. Whenever this happens, I am reminded of the spiritual element - because it is not just me. It is a way of expressing my spirit and also of giving testimony to how interlinked we all are. To me, writing is a way of feeling, and giving expression to, our common bond. So actually your name ‘Shangwe’ poetry is really spot-on because you said it means ‘celebration’. And that’s the creative process.
NB: To read Ursula's biography, please click on this month's Migration poem.